Sunday, March 3, 2013

"Improvement Mod"

Many of you might not be aware of the upcoming "Improvement Mod" for AoE3 vanilla, but in case you ever see it I wanted to let everyone know that I have nothing to do with it.
It is a simple, small mod focused on making everything free and unlimited, like unlimited pop, units and other stuff like that.

I tried to speak with the developer to make him maybe change it's name to avoid confusion but he doesn't seem too wiling to do it. I just hope he won't use this name to advertise his mod to people who know my mod.


Anyway, I really need some help from the community with something new and awesome!
I want to give names to Town Centers like Forts have. Names of historical colonial cities and/or towns as well as made up names as long as they fit.
Remember that I need names for Euro Town Centers, as well as Native and Asian ones. I need around/at least 5 names per civ.

I will post here the names I like and what might make it into the mod.
So, lets get started, I'll go first:

- British
Charlestown
York
Jamestown
Newport
Trenton
Annapolis
Maine
Plymouth
Saybrook
Lexington
Monmouth
Kingston

- Dutch
Breuckelen
Nieuw-Haarlem
Willemstad
Paramaribo
Oranjestad
Mauritsstad
Batavia
Rensselaer
Kralendijk
Beverwyck

- French
Louisbourg
Montreal
Tadoussac
Quebec
Montreal
Saint Laurent
Saint Colette
Ajaccio
Acadie
Bilocci
Martinique
Guadeloupe

- Iroquois
Mishawum
Haudenosaunee
Hochelaga
Kanatahseton
Onondaga
Ganaraske
Teyagon
Akwesasne
Canienga
Tonawanda

- Sioux
Winnebagoes
Assiniboines
Minnetaree
Salamanca
Saratoga
Oglala
Ojibway
Arikara
Wajaje

- Aztecs
Yautepec
Texcoco
Tlacopan
Tepanec
Azcapotzalco
Oaxaca
Zacatecas
Xochipili
Itztli

- Spanish
Juarez
Guanajuato
San Miguel
Merida
Morelia
Guanajuato
Guadalajara
Cartagena
Quito
San Andreas
Santiago

- Chinese
Guangzhou
Jilin
Heilongjiang
Fujian
Luoyang
Yunnan
Sichuan
Xinjiang
Guizhou
Chengdu

- Japanese
Hokkaido
Kyoto
Satsuma
Hienuki
Kokufu
Tosando
Nagato
Ryukyu
Ouchijuku
Takayama

- Indians
Calcutta
Bombay
Panaji
Marmagao
Simla
Madras
Bengal
Mangalore
Punjab
Bikaner
Bahawalpur

- Portuguese
Salvador
Bahia
Sao Paulo
Sao Vincente
Rio Grande
Sao Luis
Olinda
Recife
Porto Seguro
Ceara
Itamaraca

- Russians
Novozybkov
Rostov
Georgiyevsk
Khabarovsk
Zimniy
Saratov
Vasilevsk
Snezhnogorsk
Novoarkhangelsk
Belgorod
Belozerks

- Germans
Quedlinburg
Hildesheim
Goslar
Lubeck
Berchtesgaden
Breslau
Potsdam
Konigsberg
Tertholen
Brandenburg
Arguin

- Ottomans
Granada
Koprulu
Mustafa
Celebi
Karamanli
Kosmidion
Incegiz
Edirne
Lale
Seljuk
Marmara


The list is pretty much done. Thank you to everyone that contributed and I hope you will like them in-game!

56 comments:

  1. Well... Let me see...

    Iroquois ;

    - Kanatahséton
    or if you want a general name,
    - Kanien'kehá:ka (Plular)
    or an EVEN more general name,
    - Haudenosaunee

    Note ;
    Kanatahséton was a Kanien'kehá:ka village, while
    The Kanien'kehá:ka are one of the five original nations that make up the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois Confederacy), and was originally founded in upstate New York.

    I will write more tomorrow. Especially for Japan! I can also help with British. I just want to know if you are gonna put many different names. So they will be randomized or always be the same ones?

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    1. Something I just came up with for Japan. You could use Yedo or Yeddo (Almost same thing). It's actually a romanized version of Edo which is the Japanese capital's (Tokyo's) former name. So, I guess it fits since the game is in the Edo period.

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    2. Sorry for another comment. This will be my last one for today! :) I thought of another name but it doesn't really suit that much when it comes to real life ; Goryōkaku. It is a star Fort in Japan. Though, it was build in 1855, before the end of the Edo Period. Hope any of my ideas will help! :)

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    3. Yes, they will be randomized, that's why I need at least 5 per civ, in case Town Centers get destroyed and rebuilt, to have a little

      As for Native Americans, I think "Kanien'kehá:ka" is a bad example and let me explain why.

      What we see in AoE3 with Native War Chiefs is that they don't have their weird Native names, instead they have like "White Feather" or "Red Bull" (bad example XD) and other English translated stuff.

      The Iroquois name I found, Mishawum, was actual used by Natives to name the area in which Boston was founded.

      So uhm, it's a bit tricky with Iroquois and Sioux. We need something understandable.

      Aztecs on the other side, you can go wild with them with all kind of weird names cuz they didn't bother to translate too much stuff into European languages anyway...

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    4. ...to have a little diversity.

      Sorry for not completing the sentence.

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    5. I see. You got a point there. Hmmm Let me see ... I don't know any English-like names for Iroquois but I'll still name a few more in any case ...
      -Tonawanda
      -Oatka
      -Onnahee
      -Solocka
      -Ganos
      -0swego
      -Oneonta

      Now, I see that another guy pointed out for Japan. Well, let me see ...
      Samurai Districts;
      -Kanazawa (Kanazawa used to be the capital of the Edo Period's second wealthiest feudal domain.)
      -Matsue
      -Hagi
      -Kakunodate
      Merchant Districts;
      -Takayama (I love this one)
      -Kawagoe
      -Matsumoto
      -Asuka

      Kiso Valley Post Towns;

      -Tsumago (A beautifully preserved post town along the old Nakasendo with most of the town's buildings dating back to the Edo Period, when they served as lodgings and restaurants.)

      -Magome
      -Narai

      Aizu Post Town;

      -Ouchijuku

      In case you are wondering what Post Towns are ;
      Post towns were built along Japan's major highways, such as the Tokaido and Nakasendo, to accommodate and cater to travelers.

      About British ... Hmmm;
      -Concord
      -Lexington
      -John's Town
      -Packanack (Maybe too North America one, but I think it still does)
      -Monmouth

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    6. I got Iroquois pretty much covered, I found a huge list of city names from a Total War topic.

      Same with Chinese and Japanese. I thought they will be a bit hard but you guys made it through, good job.

      Sioux on the other hand, not doing so good. Almost everything I put in the list is not as good as I wanted them too be.

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    7. Hmmm Not that bad. I mean ... It's kinda hard to find perfect names. I think I have heard of Dakotas, but I'm not sure whether this is a village or something else. I'll search a bit. Also, I see you have no Ottoman names. I'll try to help. I'm gonna have a 5-days trip at Constantinoupole (Instabul) in two days (A school's trip). Maybe I'll have the chance to learn something and help you. But I'll search for them too. Probably I'll find something for the Ottoman Empire in history books.

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  2. I'm assuming you want name's where Canada was not created yet, nor any other mumbo jumbo. But nonetheless,
    -British (alot of these are in British North America, because the setting of AoE 3 is mainly setting in the new world).
    Niagara
    London "Ontario"
    York (Toronto)
    Ottawa
    Queenstown
    Windsor
    Hamilton
    Kitchener
    Chrysler
    Chatham
    Kingston
    Newquay
    Bude
    Liverpool
    -French
    Montreal (Should be obvious)
    Quebec City
    Tadqussac (I think that's how you spell it)

    I'm Canadian, so I kinda know this stuff.










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    1. Got something for the Portuguese,
      São Paulo
      Rio de Janeiro
      São Luís
      Salvador
      Bahia

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    2. Take care! Bahia was actually a Province/Captaincy !

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  3. I like this idea, reminds me of Rise of Nations. :3

    I can give you some historical cities/settlements for the Japanese and Chinese, most of these were capitals or important cities;

    China:

    Chengdu (Shu_Han capital, present name today)
    Xuchang (Cao_Wei capital)
    Luoyang (has been a capital for many years through various Dynasties)
    Chang'an (or Xi'an) has been a capital for more than TEN Dynasties
    Nanjing (Ming dynasty)

    Japan:

    Edo (today known as Tokyo, fits in the era Japan is set in the game, which is the Sengoku-Jidai period)
    Kyoto/Heian-kyō (ancient capital)
    Osaka (fits in the games period)
    Nagoya
    Gifu (fits in the games period)

    I would really like if Xuchang and Luoyang make it in. :)


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    1. Made a little mistake, seeing as I can't edit I'll just post this.

      The game setting for Japan stretches from the late Sengoku-Jidai period to Azuchi-Momoyama period which then crosses into the Tokugawa period (or simply, Edo)

      I'd also replace Nagoya with Azuchi. Sorry about that.

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    2. Thank you very much for you contribution but it would be best if we avoid capitals.

      I mean, Edo for example, already is the Home City, why would the colony be called that? Not saying it hasn't happen before but if we can we should avoid them.

      For now I really need names for Ottoman and Russian Town Centers.

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    3. The Chinese ones you listed are Provinces, not cities. (Unless you intend for that) Yedo isn't in China. Guangdong could be replaced by Guangzhou (or Canton which is a historical name for it) which is a city in Guangdong province.

      When I mean "capital" I mean provincial capital which administers administration to other cities in the province, but is otherwise a city. For example, Luoyang is in Henan province but is the provincial capital for that province. It's a major city too, as well as a historical ancient capital.

      Anyway, I don't seem to remember much for Russia (unless you're willing to accept USSR cities but I'll list some older ones before that)

      Novozybkov
      Rostov
      Moscow/Moskva (St Petersburg is the Russian capital in-game)
      Georgiyevsk

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    4. I didn't intend for anything, someone gave them to me from a book, and I thought since it's from a book they are good...

      I will update the Chinese list a bit.

      The Russian ones sound good, except for Moscow. Too popular.
      Gonna add them too.

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    5. All of these names should fit in the colonial era so if the USSR city names are more modern than lets say 1800 then they are no good.

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  4. I think region names would also work especially for those civs that didn't really had colonies, like Russians, Germans and Ottomans.

    I already used this technique for Iroquois and Sioux so yeah.

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    1. For the Germans, you could have a mix of cities and/or regions such as: (These are before or around 1800)

      Munich
      Hesse-Kassel
      Laudenburg
      Bavaria
      Heidelberg
      Hanover

      Back to the Chinese, I noticed you put Takayama there. I guess you meant to put it under Japan?

      Anyway I just had a idea, would you prefer a mix of Qing cities (game period for China)as well as historical ones?

      Examples:

      Luoyang (historical)
      Baotou (Qing city)
      Urumqi (Qing city in Xinjiang)
      Xuchang (historical city)
      Chengdu (historical and Qing dynasty city)
      Guangzhou (historical Qing city in Guangdong)

      Also found another city for Russia:

      Khabarovsk

      What's interesting about that one is that it was once part of the Qing Empire, however it didn't return to Russia until 1858 so..

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    2. Uhm... Yeah, I'll just say yes to all of those...

      But really now, we should focus on those that got none and leave the ones we already found for a later polish.

      Gonna upgrade the list gain.

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    3. We need Asian Indian names ASAP!

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  5. I see you have no Dutch names.
    So here are some:
    Breuckelen
    Nieuw-Haarlem
    Willemstad
    Paramaribo
    Oranjestad

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    1. Awesome! Gonna need more mate.

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    2. These are all located in the Caribs or North America. Do you need any Asian names?
      for the Dutch, ofcourse.

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    3. Sure, if it sounds Dutch and it was colonial, then sure.

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  6. Hey bro, here's a couple of Russian city names:

    Petrograd
    Novoarkhangelsk
    Zimniy
    Vasilevsk
    Snezhnogorsk
    Novaya Odessa

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  7. I think it would be best for se germans to use Prussian cities.

    Königsberg
    Breslau
    Potsdam
    Berlin

    Fuck. I keep wiki walking.

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    1. Uhm... I don't think these are very good.
      Berlin for example is a capital so no.

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    2. But I'll use them none the less...

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  8. I don't think Germany established a colony in North America very well.
    But whatever,
    Quedlinburg
    Hildesheim
    Goslar
    Lübeck
    Berchtesgaden
    As for the Indian's (I know little Indian history)
    Calcutta
    Delhi
    Mumbai
    Panaji
    Marmagao

    One more for the Portuguese,
    Rio da parala, it's the name of Rio de Janeiro during the first settlement of Brazil.


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    1. I hope all of these existed in the colonial era!

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    2. "Rio da parala, it's the name of Rio de Janeiro during the first settlement of Brazil."
      You sure? I'm Brazilian, and I never heard about that. If you could tell me where you found that, it would be great...

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    3. I hope, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Capitanias.jpg.

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    4. Hm, do you mean this "Rio da Prata" ? So, it was neither a captaincy, neither a city, it was just a river. and yeah, this is a "t", and I can prove it!

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  9. Hey, i just realized that Petrograd is the name that communists gave to St Petersburg for a brief period (before they named it Leningrad), so obviously it's a bad choice, sorry :). To compensate, here's another couple of Russian city names:
    Belgorod ("white city", suits Russian theme well, it was founded in 1596 and looks very cool in winter :))
    Belozerks ("white lakes")

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  10. here are three more Dutch cities:
    Mauritsstad
    Batavia
    Nieuw-Amsterdam

    And oh, Konigsberg is wrong. It should be: Königsberg.

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    1. I know but I'm trying to avoid things like é, á and ö. I know the game can display them but it's better to avoid them.

      Thanks for the names.

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  11. That's a good ideia!
    By the way:
    "Sao Paulo"
    I live there :D

    And some suggestions for Portuguese(all based in colonies/colonial cities of course):
    -Olinda
    -Recife
    -Porto Seguro
    -Rio de Janeiro

    Oh, and I would recommend you remove "Bahia", since it was actually a province/captaincy.

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    1. Thank you Daniel. They will do nicely.

      Doesn't really matter what Bahia is/was as long as it's related to colonies. I mean, I already improvised for Germans and Russians, don't think Bahia could be so bad.

      Now I just need a few more for Indians, Germans and of course Ottomans which are empty at the moment.

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    2. And a few more for Dutch! :)

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  12. The Ottoman empire in 1580 reached the Balkans, eastern Europe, north Africa (including Egypt) and large parts of the Middle-East, like Syria, Jordan and Iran.

    A lot of cities bro.
    -Symrna
    -Sinope
    -Magnesia
    -Scutari
    -Brusa

    http://www.allaboutturkey.com/img/ottoman-empire-1580.gif

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    1. I know it covered a lot of land but I would prefer if the names where all Ottoman.

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    2. just picked the towns names that were in turkey :)

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    3. Bro, you spelt "Rio da Parla" wrong. You typed "Rio da Parta",
      just putting it out there to prevent future issues.

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  13. Got some more Indian towns,
    -Simla
    -Replace Mumbai with Bombay, as Bombay was a older name to the town.
    -Madras
    -Karachi (although it is the largest city of Pakistan today, it was part of British India back then).
    -Bengal (province of India)
    -Mangalore
    -Bikaner
    -Bahawalpur

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/India_railways1909a.jpg

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    1. Good.
      Just a couple of Portuguese, German and Dutch names and we are done!

      If we do it fast I'll release these withing the mod tomorrow.

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  14. Rensselaer
    Beverwyck
    Philipsburg
    Kralendijk
    Nieuw-Utrecht
    All Dutch.

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  15. Dude you have got to add the last ones I gave you. For Saba and Tobago are rather islands.

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    1. Alright, I'll replace those 2.
      Thanks for the help, I'll release an update soon.

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    2. Three hurrays for you my friend!
      For making this stuff possible.

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    3. And four hurrays for my players for being awesome!

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    4. Yup. The update has been released.

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